fish wrote:Hello Owen.
Great to have you with us.
I was away yesterday splashing around in the sea with a couple of kids, so I missed your arrival.
"Coconut Grove" is on Vimeo if you haven't caught that one yet.
https://vimeo.com/38620761It's one of a few (including Dutch Room) that Pauline made for the clothing company Indress.

fish
Thank you for all your thorough research! Good to see that Pauline is slowly progressing in her career. Hope to see her in more movies like NdP, not by style but by prominence and interesting roles.
I haven't seen "Coconut Grove" either

this will keep me busy for subtitles.
DMt. wrote:Already, a scant two years later, she is so different from the gamine Marie, she is a young woman.
But! In the meeting on the steps, Pauline and the other girl's banter and singing - I always thought there was something highly
risqué in that other girl's version of 'Laissez tomber les filles'...
un jour c'est ta con rentera, was it? It cracks Pauline up, anyway

Yes, this role is very different from Marie, but the pessimism remains. The filming of her legs, the lipstick, show her growth, not only physical I mean. I wonder why she has chosen the role.
Do you have a theory about the reasons for Sandy's suicide? I think the point of the short film was to show that distress can be completely unseen and even if the person is acting normally, she may be suffering and struggling for her life. Or maybe one can be unaware even of the existence of such struggle in him. The film leaves me perplexed.
These themes have been explored remarquably on the show
House M.D., when one of the doctors kills himself and not even House can find out why.
About the risqué variation of the song, I tried but failed to understand exactly what they were singing the first time; it seemed different from the official lyrics.

The second time they sing, I hear "Un jour c'est toi qu'on [laissera]", I didn't hear very well all the consouns of "laissera" so I guessed it was it. It is however not "con" but "qu'on" = "it is you that will be [some verb]".
fish wrote:Santi wrote:...It is a sex scene without sexual pleasure...
I kept thinking "why doesn't she kiss her?" all through that scene.
I found it very sad, especially for Marie.
That's exactly why I find this scene excellent. It averts the dangerous path of representing a sexual relationship between minors and plays on the theme of power of the movie. While not sexual, the scene is very tense.
More generally I like how this movie subverts all the tropes of films about lesbians (ie representation of sex) and coming-of-age films (the parents are completely absent here).